 Money Metals Exchange provides the latest precious metals news for savvy, self-reliant investors who want to invest in gold, silver & other precious metals. <p>Welcome to this week’s Market Wrap Podcast, I’m Mike Gleason.</p>
<p>Later in today’s program we’ll hear a tremendous interview with one of our favorite guests to talk to about silver Peter Krauth, author of the book The Silver Bull and publisher of the Silver Stock Investor. Peter shares his thoughts on how the war is going to affect the silver market, both in the short run – where he admittedly sees it being a potential drag on the metal – but also over the longer term and what his outlook is for the silver there as well.</p>
<p>Mike Maharrey and Peter also discuss the debt black hole, the inflationary trap we’ve found ourselves in and how that situation is made even worse due to the Iran war. In addition to those topics Peter also weighs in on other matters, besides than war, that will be driving silver prices over the near to medium term in his view.</p>
<p>So be sure to stick around for another wonderful interview with Peter Krauth, coming up after this week’s market update. And as a reminder please download, like, rate and subscribe to this podcast wherever you consume this content.</p>
<p>After an initial safe-haven boost at the onset of the Iran war, gold corrected and has behaved more like a risk asset. However, HSBC analysts say the <a href="https://www.moneymetals.com/news/2025/03/11/de-dollarization-gold-and-a-shift-to-a-multipolar-world-003898";>de-dollarization</a> trend still makes the yellow metal a good long-term investment.</p>
<p>As we've noted here before at Money Metals, <a href="https://www.moneymetals.com/news/2026/03/03/how-has-war-impacted-the-gold-price-in-the-modern-era-004733";>wars in the modern era often do not have a major impact on the gold price</a> beyond an early safe-haven bid. After a brief initial spike, other factors in the economy have tended to drive the gold price, particularly the trajectory of monetary policy.</p>
<p>This has proved true during the current conflict. Gold initially surged to $5,400 an ounce at the onset of hostilities but quickly corrected and then sold off.</p>
<p>As oil prices spiked, inflation worries threw a wet blanket on hopes for Federal Reserve interest rate cuts. Some analysts have even predicted a new hiking cycle. This has created significant headwinds for gold as a non-yielding asset. While <a href="https://www.moneymetals.com/podcasts/2026/03/25/the-case-against-gold-004787";>we don’t think this case against gold stands up to scrutiny</a>, the narrative does seem to be currently controlling the market.</p>
<p>HSBC analysts noted that interest rate worries and a strong dollar have created significant headwinds for gold since the war kicked off.</p>
<p>But they pointed out that gold’s performance during the tightening cycle in 2022 and 2023 undercut the narrative that gold can’t chart gains in a higher-rate environment.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the relationship between real rates and gold appears to have broken down. Gold is effectively serving as a risk asset in the current market, with speculators and traders in control.</p>
<p>“Ownership has shifted towards retail and other leveraged buyers, many of whom are forced to liquidate holdings in periods of market stress,” HSBC said.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the war may well accelerate this trend as more countries become wary of the <a href="https://www.moneymetals.com/news/2024/02/29/could-weaponization-of-the-dollar-as-a-foreign-policy-billy-club-accelerate-de-dollarization-003013";>weaponization of the dollar</a>. The war will also drive more borrowing and spending, further eroding <a href="https://www.moneymetals.com/news/2026/03/19/national-debt-quietly-eclipses-39-trillion-004774";>Uncle Sam’s abysmal fiscal situation</a>. Many countries are already becoming wary of loaning <a href="https://www.moneymetals.com/news/2026/03/26/the-us-government-is-insolvent-yes-that-matters-004791";>a bankrupt U.S. government</a> more money.</p>
<p>We're already seeing evidence in this with <a href="https://www.moneymetals.com/news/2026/03/26/india-increasingly-using-dollar-alternatives-for-oil-purchases-004789";>India bypassing the dollar in some oil transactions</a>.</p>
<p>The U.S. dollar isn't in danger of losing its reserve status anytime soon. However, that doesn’t preclude a diversification of reserves and a modest decline in dollar demand.</p>
<p>Even a modest decline in dollar reserves spells trouble for an economy that depends on foreign dollar demand to support its money-printing habit. If the world needs fewer dollars, they will begin to return to the U.S., causing a dollar glut. This will increase inflationary pressure domestically as the value of the U.S. currency further depreciates. In the worst-case scenario, the dollar could collapse completely, leading to hyperinflation.</p>
<p>We've had a lot of new money come into the gold market, and that led to a parabolic rally in January. When a market goes up like this, it really invites volatility. Just because gold is a safe haven and a quality asset doesn't mean it's not going to be volatile.</p>
<p>Well, before we get to this week’s interview, which will dive more into silver, let’s take a look at where the market closed the week. With today being Good Friday global markets are closed and thus the prices are fixed. With that said, Money Metals is open for business as usual both today and Saturday.</p>
<p>Gold rose nearly $200 on the week and closed Thursday at $4,687, good for a 4.3% weekly advance during this holiday shortened week.</p>
<p>Silver meanwhile rose an even $4 and trades at $73.75, advancing 5.7%. Platinum climbed 7.0% to close at $1,997 an ounce.</p>
<p>And finally, palladium was the biggest winner among all the precious metals this week, rising 9.7% to come in at $1,521 an ounce.</p>
<p>Well now, without further delay and for much more on silver, let’s get right to our exclusive interview with author and resource sector industry insider Peter Krauth.</p>
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<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Greetings. I'm Mike Maharrey and I'm joined today by one of my favorite silver gurus, Peter Kraut. Peter is the author of a book, The Great Silver Bull. He's the publisher of the Silver Stock Investor and very knowledgeable on the silver market. How you doing today, Peter?</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> I'm doing well and great to be here with you, Mike. Always fun time chatting.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Absolutely. It's always delightful to have you on and never a lack of things to talk about. So, I guess we have to talk about the war because that seems to be the dominant thing that's going on right now in the markets. And of course, we had kind of an initial safe haven bump at the very initiation of the conflict, but both silver and gold quickly sold off after that. And we've seen silver in the low 60s to mid 70s kind of fluctuating back and forth with quite a bit of volatility. And I'm curious if the war has changed your calculus on the silver market at all.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> That's a good question. What I would say is in the near term, yes. In the medium to long term, no. In fact, it has bolstered it because war is inflationary. And we see that, of course, with the oil prices right now, but we're going to see that, I think, trickle through and be more widely pronounced over the next several quarters and years. We've got high oil prices that are affecting transportation. They're affecting things made of oil, which there are so many these days, plastics and well beyond packaging, you name it. And then the transportation that needs to get everything we consume daily to market and into stores. So there's that. Then you've got all the arms that you're blowing up and all of the infrastructure that you're blowing up. So all of this is going to need to be replaced. Governments don't have the money for that.</p>
<p>They're going to print it. So it'll be inflationary. And that's about as simply as I can put it. So, that's why I believe medium to long-term, very much inflationary, very supportive of silver and gold prices. And I think that's what we have to focus on and look forward to. In the near term, you're right. We saw an initial bump and then a correction. And to be honest, that is, and I'm not here making excuses, but that is typical of how precious metals behave. And in fact, they're doing their job because they provide liquidity. They have no counterparty risk. They had been very strong, and so they had moved up significantly. When people or institutions or governments needed to find liquidity, that was an obvious place. And so we've seen some liquidation. We've also seen central banks, for example, certain ones have started to sell. Think about it.</p>
<p>Many countries are oil importers. They now have to pay more for that oil. They need liquidity for it. They have to pay for it in US dollars, which have moved up. And they have to use more dollars because the price has moved up. So you've seen Turkey, for example, has reduced its holdings by something like 53 tons in the last sort of month or two, and that's to help fund its budget. So other countries are doing the same thing. And that's what happens in times of economic stress. You get precious metals, they do their job. They are a liquid asset, as I say, with no counterparty risk. And so they've done what they're there and meant to do.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah. You make a really good point too, because I think we tend to think of gold and silver both as safe haven assets, and they are. And yet we do see historically at the beginning, particularly of deep crises, we've seen this selloff 2008. After the financial crisis, we had a pretty steep selloff. In the early days of the pandemic, both gold and silver crashed. So again, not anything that's unusual. So I'm curious what you make of this, because I agree with you on the inflation aspect. And that's really, to me, one of the primary things that I'm looking at, monetary policy and the fact that the dollar is constantly being devalued. But the mainstream mentality seems to be, "Oh no, we're going to have a lot of inflation, so therefore the Fed is going to raise interest rates. So therefore we have to sell our gold and silver because they're non-yielding assets." And I've always kind of thought, "I don't know if I want to be selling my inflation hedge when I know there's going to be inflation, but that seems to be the mindset." What do you make of this?</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> Well, you're right. I believe that is how people are thinking about it, and that is possible, and I believe only very near term, a very near term risk. What are the odds of them raising rates? I think they're pretty low. I think the odds are more that they will hold rates perhaps longer than we had expected before this war became an issue, but I don't see them stopping with rate cutting. A great example I like to use is that in the 1970s, you had Volker who stepped in and really, frankly, saved the economy from hyperinflation. He raised rates to 18, 20%. And this was really to break the back of inflation. There was a very big difference in terms of the overall, I guess you would call it fiscal health at the time. Debt, US debt to GDP was just 35%. Today, it's over 120%.</p>
<p>So, how can you possibly raise rates anywhere near anything like that to kill inflation when there is so much debt out there? So much, much higher debt, just to be clear, at much higher interest rates means a much more difficult time servicing that debt. So, they're stuck between ... Treasury and the Fed are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Pick your poison. I think they will err on the side of more inflation because it's harder to kind of pinpoint and blame someone for it. And certainly, I think that's what we should expect. I can't honestly see any kind of meaningful odds for a scenario where they're going to start raising rates. I'm not saying it can't happen. Maybe in an extreme case, a quarter point, once, twice, even that I think is unlikely, most likely, and that's what people are worried about right now, and that's what has sort of worked its way against gold and silver.</p>
<p>There's been this expectation of a pause, which wasn't the case before, so that has changed the outlook temporarily. I don't think expect that to last. So like you, I think that we need to look beyond that. And all of what's happening now is very inflationary. Don't expect rates to rise. Expect them to stay put perhaps near term, then fall, and to resume their fall. And I've been saying this for a while, and I believe that's why we've seen gold in particular, initially at least, rise so much and so steadily, was we saw the Fed start to cut rates in the face of maintained high and rising inflation. To me, that was sort of a game of chicken that investors said, "All right, so all credibility is gone. You say you're going to fight inflation, but really you're not, and you can't." And so we see inflation high in rising, your cutting rates, that's because you don't have a choice.</p>
<p>That's going to continue, and they don't have a choice. At 40 trillion ... There's a few interesting stats, if I may. Nearly 40 trillion dollars of debt in the US. In the March 2020 to March 2022 period, $6 trillion of new debt was issued. Half of that was two to 10 year treasuries, and yet 30 years were ultra-low, below 2%, I think at the time. It would have been a gift to issue debt for 30 years at such low rates. That is not what happened. Last year, $9 trillion came due, rolled over. This year, another nine to $10 trillion of debt is being rolled over. That's half of the entire US debt between last year and this year. That's a huge maturity wall. And I think that, again, is a huge defense, I guess, if you could put it that way, for the thought that it's impossible for the Fed to raise rates.</p>
<p>They have to cut rates. The deficit is so big and growing. It's a vicious circle. It's bad enough as it is. It just gets worse. So if at least at lower rates, it makes it that much easier to service. So that's a way to kind of inflate away the debt to some extent.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah, that's a really, really good point. I was looking today, go back to 1995, which was when we were having, what did they call it? the contract for America. And New Gingrich and the Republicans were really pushing this. We've got to get the debt under control. We've got to get the spending under control. You know what the national debt was in 1995? It was under $5 trillion. It was 4.9 something trillion dollars. So, it just shows you the trajectory of it. And I was talking to a friend of mine the other day. We've never had a president since Grover Cleveland that has left office with less debt than when he came into office. That's a long time ago. That includes Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have a few years of surpluses. He still left office with more debt than when he came in.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> There you go.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah. I talk about this a lot. I think that that's the elephant in the room that so many people are ignoring. Our friend Greg Weldon calls it a debt black hole. And I think that's a perfect example because a black hole, its gravity impacts everything around it. And that's exactly what this is doing to the economy. And you're right, that the bit can't raise rates significantly in this environment. And it's interesting. You go back to the tightening cycle that we had when inflation jumped to nine, 10% of the CPI. I hate conflating the CPI and inflation. When CPI does that, during that whole time, if you go look at the Chicago Fed's National Financial Conditions Index, during that entire time, it never became tight from a historical perspective. We have not had tight monetary policy since before the pandemic.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> Yeah. I think the unfortunate part is that too many people are either not interested or find it too difficult to grasp. And if you boil it down simply enough, which I actually did try to do in my book purposely, to keep the explanation of some of these concepts as simple as possible, then I think that's kind of what leads to the apathy, I guess, is the best way to put it. People don't grasp it, feel it's beyond them. And even Keens themselves said, not one in, I think it's a million is going to notice the tax that you have from inflation. So it's an easy one to get away with, frankly.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah. That's why they love it, right? It's the beautiful hidden tax and it sustains the borrowing and spending. So, we may have answered the question when we talk about the debt, but I'm curious, the thing that seems to be driving the markets right now, and this is all of them, our war headlines, right? Trump can come out today and say, "We're negotiating and we're about to have a ceasefire and then stocks will rise and everything." And then we'll get another tweet or a post on X or whatever and then the markets will tank. But obviously there's a lot going on besides the war. Is there anything in particular that you're kind of watching that's not war related and it might be the debt, that might be the answer, but I was curious if there was anything else that you're kind of watching.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> I mean, when I talk about silver, I've got to say, if I may, and this sort of doesn't really quite answer your question, but I think it's worth pointing out that silver is an industrial metal more and more. It's moved from five years ago being 50% industrially consumed into like 67% last year industrial demand being all silver, 67% of demand being industrial demand for silver. So that's really, it's just become so much more part of our economy and of industry. So there is concern that if the economy slows down that you may have less consumption of silver because it's in electronics, it's in all sorts of industrial applications and we won't go into all of that. But it's interesting that higher oil price actually, despite initially denting silver because the US dollar went up, it hasn't taken long for at least anecdotally, certain things to shift very quickly.</p>
<p>I mean, people are looking at ... So, high oil means high gasoline prices. People are looking more seriously at hybrids and EVs. People are looking at ... Actually, there was an interesting article in the BBC talking about how the largest utility energy provider in the UK called Octopus Energy. They have said that in the last couple of months, they've seen demand for solar panels jump by 50% in the UK. So people are saying, "Well, if heating oil's going up so quickly because of oil prices, what else can I do? " And so they would shift to this alternate form of renewable energy, which as you know, Mike consumes a fair bit of silver. In fact, solar is the single largest industrial use for silver. It's 20% of all silver demand. So these kinds of things will balance perhaps what we are concerned about in terms of silver consumption when we see the war at dent silver prices initially and the safe haven, perhaps the safe haven attraction initially of silver.</p>
<p>It quickly balances out and this could certainly cause things to flip on the demand side and the price side pretty quickly.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah, absolutely. And I would say too that the rapid militarization that we're seeing, I mean, not only from the war, which is obviously a big part of it, but then just this kind of shift we're seeing with the US maybe being less involved in European defense. So we're seeing countries like Germany and England and France ramping up military spending. Military stuff uses a lot of silver.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> It sure does.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> And nobody can really pinpoint exactly how much, but everybody I've ever asked is like, it's a lot.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> That's right. That's right. In fact, I saw an article this morning, there's an interesting new Substack called the Sound Money Report and shout out to them. They do a great job. It's at least partly by the guys who produce the In Gold We Trust report every year.</p>
<p>They have some great macro stuff. And I think it was today's issue written by a guy by the name Ryan Blanchette, who knows the defense sector quite well. And he was saying how important silver is to defense and to military. And he was trying to come up with some estimates. And he said, you're looking at, for example, Tomahawk missiles and best number he can come up with, again, there's not a lot of clarity around this, but is 150 grams of silver per missile. Well, you start blowing up a few of these and you start having to replace all kinds of electronics in tanks, in surveillance equipment, radar, computers, laptops. Oh, I'm just talking militarily at this point. And before you know it, you're at several billion dollars of silver consumption. So it really doesn't take very much. And I think there's always going to be a lack of clarity around that.</p>
<p>But the sort of most reasonable estimates I've come across where that military could account for about 5% of silver demand every year. So certainly not insignificant. And like you say, as military spending and build out ramps up, that's going to cause very likely more and more demand for silver that is so crucial to it.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah. So one of the things that we've talked about a lot in the silver market is the structural deficits. We've seen multiple years where mine output and recycling has not kept up with demand. That means that users are having to tap into above ground sources to get their silver. That requires higher prices because you have to entice people to get rid of the silver they have. And one of the things that seemed to really drive the two squeezes that we saw that pushed silver so much higher was this displacement of metal where you had all of the metal, not all of it, but a lot of silver went to New York because of tariff worries. And then when Indian demand spiked, there wasn't enough metal in London. And then we kind of got the metal back to London and then there's been reports of shortages in the Asian markets.</p>
<p>So I'm curious, we're not really hearing a lot about it because of the war, but are you still seeing this displacement of metal? Is there still some volatility there in terms of people actually sourcing physical metal?</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> Yeah. So that's an interesting point you've brought up. I like to liken that to a shell game. So you've got these shells, you've got the same amount of silver and you're just kind of moving the shells around. And at one point it's under one shell, which may be the LVMA. At another point it might be under another shell, Comex, and then maybe under the shell that's the Shanghai Futures Exchange, but you don't have more silver around. And there's been, as you say, there's been less talk about that lately. I don't think that has changed. The Silver Institute last year said they think that ... Well, they said that not only have we been through the past five years of structural deficit, but they expected the next five years to also maintain structural deficits and that we would likely reach a new record high deficit at some point in the next five years.</p>
<p>So, another interesting point is if you look at the numbers that the Silver Institute puts out, in fact, we should expect, I think in the next couple of weeks, usually it's mid-April that the next World Silver Survey comes out. Last year's, or I should say they do a bit of an update in November every year after a good part of the year has gone by and they have some numbers, they can bring us some more sort of clarity. And their forecast was that for 2025, we would have a deficit that had shrank. So looking sort of not as crucial as perhaps the last year or in the year before. However, they also show silver that moves into silver ETFs as a separate line item, which I have some issues with because their argument is that, well, this silver isn't consumed. So if it goes into an ETF, people who hold the ETF could always sell their units and that sort of pushes more silver back into the market, making it available.</p>
<p>Well, interestingly enough, you tell me, Mike, wouldn't that be the same case for physical bars and coins? In other words, if you're buying physical coins and bars, you're not consuming them, you could turn around and sell them back to the market. And so, and yet the physical coins and bars are included in the main calculation of demand, whereas the ETF silver is shown separately. And then it's shown separately, but then they give you a final total if you do include it. Well, if you do include it, then 2025 is going to have the largest silver deficit we've ever seen. So take that for what it's worth. It's true that that silver ETF or physically bought and held can shift around and come back to market on a whim. But that's pretty interesting to me to see how strong the investment demand from ETFs could be that we're going to be at a record high deficit.</p>
<p>So, it's definitely something to watch. I think that this is something that could surprise a lot of people once again and keep an eye on that.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah. Okay. Let me get you out on this one. I don't want to keep you too long. We're running out of time, but this one's kind of a little fun question for you. I'm curious as to what's your favorite silver coin? Do you have a coin that you really like? I mean, just it could be for whatever reason, it could be sentimental or whatever.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> I mean, look, I'm a Canuck. So the Canadian maple is my favorite. It's common, relatively common. It's recognized worldwide. And they were the first to actually, if I have this right, they were the first to produce a four nines silver, pure silver coin. So that's 0.999 purity. And that's basically become the standard. So it looks nice too. I mean, not so sure about the queen on one side, but I like that maple leaf at least. And then I would say that, and it makes sense. So I have nothing against numismatics, but it's a whole world onto itself. You really have to be very, very informed, I think, and be very careful about what you're buying and what you're paying for. That's different for bullion type coins. So the Maple Leaf is, I think, sort of a standard for pretty much anyone. And I like the, to be fair, I like the eagle as well.</p>
<p>It's also a set of standard. It's very, very well recognized all around the world. And so I think these are the kinds of things that make sense. In Europe, they've got the Philharmonic, I think, which is produced by the Austrian mint. So every region kind of has its favorite and its standard go- to mines the maple leaf with the eagle as a close second.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah. Those are good ones. And I think you make a really good point in the fact that you need to have that recognizability if you want to be able to have your silver be liquid, right? Exactly. I know that if I have a maple leaf, if I have an American eagle, I know that pretty much anybody in the world is going to recognize that as a good coin that they're going to want to have. And as you say, with the numismatics, what's the date? I don't want to get into all that. That's too much for my little brain to handle.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> There's an important point to make too. I mean, think people look at, and to be fair, they're right. You have to be careful, but they look at mint issued coins and they say, "Well, premiums are pretty high over the milk value, over the actual physical silver in that coin." And that's true, but you're paying for that recognition, and you're also going to get a lot of that back the day that you sell it, and especially if you're selling it one day at much, much higher prices. So these are things that people have to kind of use and balance when they think about what the premiums are. I certainly favor those over the non-mint type coins, but anyone will buy whatever works best for them. And the bars obviously is the sort of the cheapest way to get the most value for dollar when it comes to silver.</p>
<p>But transaction-wise, I think it's smart to have at least a handful of coins at hand and available.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yep, I agree completely. So before we go, I do want you to let folks know where they can follow your work, pitch your book and all of the things that you're doing so folks can avail themselves to your wealth of silver knowledge.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> Well, thanks for that. So my book, which was published four years ago, is The Great Silver Bull, and it gives you an overview of the silver market and how to invest in silver and silver mining equities. Other than that, my newsletter is Silver Stock Investor. You can find it at silverstockinvestor.com. And I'm pretty active on X. I'm active on LinkedIn. You can find me there and those are some of the best ways to follow my work.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah. Every time I have you on, I brag about your book because I really do think it's one of the best books out there on silver, just because of the way it's organized. And as you alluded to earlier, you do really endeavor to make very complicated things simple so that you don't have to be a finance major to pick up your book and, "Oh, I get this. " So I highly encourage folks, if you want to take a deep dive into the silver market, check out that book. Well, I'm going to let you go because I know you've got many, many things to do, but I appreciate the fact that you've taken a little bit of time to hang out with me and we will definitely have you back on. Hopefully next time we talk, there won't be a war on and we can focus on ... I'm sure there'll be more chaos of some other type.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> Highly likely.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> But, it'll be different at least, right?</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> Exactly. It's always fun talking with you. Love the interaction and the questions, and I certainly look forward to the next time as well.</p>
<p><b>Mike Maharrey:</b> Yeah, absolutely. We have a fantastic rest of your day.</p>
<p><b>Peter Krauth:</b> You bet. You too.</p>
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<p>Some more great analysis there from our friend Peter Krauth and I hope you enjoyed that interview</p>
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