CNLP 355: John Eldredge on Living at an Unsustainable Pace, What Men and Women Most Long For, and How to Get Your Soul and Life Back

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When John Eldredge’s Wild at Heart came out 20 years ago, it struck a chord that continues to reverberate decades later about the message men and women most need to hear.

John talks about his own unsustainable pace, what the internet is doing to our souls, and how to live your life at a pace your soul can sustain.

Welcome to Episode 355 of the podcastListen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

Plus, in this episode’s What I’m Thinking About segment, Carey talks about some things he’s sensing leaders are thinking about this summer.

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Wild at Heart by John Eldredge

Captivating by John and Stasi Eldredge

Get Your Life Back by John Eldredge

How Many Friends Does One Person Need? by Robin Dunbar

Margin by Richard Swenson

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What Church Leaders are (Really) Thinking in 2020 by Carey Nieuwhof

3 INSIGHTS FROM JOHN

1. There’s a masculinity crisis in the world today, and a lack of fathers 

John’s classic New York Times bestselling book Wild At Heart struck a massive chord when it was released and has continued to sell hundreds of thousands of copies to this day. Why are so many people interested in the book? John says that it’s a response to the fatherlessness in our world.

To point out how big the need is, John said that, statistically, half of Carey’s listening audience grew up in broken homes where there wasn’t a supportive father. This has left a huge void in the soul of each and every kid that grows up in one of those homes. If you want to make a difference in the world, combating fatherlessness would be a great start.

2. The expectations you set on yourself ultimately get passed on to your team

Like most of you reading this, John is a high capacity leader. And for many years, he ran at a pace that he expected from himself, but would never ask of his team. He thought those high expectations of himself only affected him. He’s since learned that isn’t true.

He’s learned that the expectations you set on yourself as a leader ultimately get passed on to your team. When you’re sending emails at 8:00 a.m., 5:00 a.m., and all hours of the weekend, you are communicating an expectation for your team to do the same. When John realized he was doing this, he began to work through a complete culture-shift as a company so that he wasn’t leading his team into burnout.

3. The human soul is village-sized

There is a lot of evidence showing that the human soul is village-sized. We were only designed to live with, care about, and share the pain of a small group of people. And that’s how humans have functioned for thousands of years. But now that we have global 24-hour news and social media, there seems to always be a new major catastrophe to care about. While it’s great to care about those tragedies, our souls can only take so much.

As a result of this “compassion fatigue” we get from the news, we are much more likely to struggle with anxiety and depression. Our souls are being overloaded with trauma and never getting time to heal. John encourages us to pause and put up boundaries between ourselves and the tragedies of the outside world. If we don’t, we’ll begin to neglect ourselves and our village around us.

Quotes from Episode 355

The way I treat my heart and my soul is the way I will end up treating everyone else's. @johneldredge Click To Tweet You want to be a more loving person? Care for your soul. You want to be more creative? Care for your soul. You want to make a difference in the world? Care for your soul. @johneldredge Click To Tweet You were never meant to be subject to an insane pace of life with no downtime, to being over connected in technology, and to being subject to the heartache of the entire world. @johneldredge Click To Tweet Everything depends on the health of your soul. @johneldredge Click To Tweet No one and nothing in the world is going to tell you to take care of your soul. @johneldredge Click To Tweet Let beauty back into your life and into your soul because it will heal you in ways that you didn't even know you needed healing. @johneldredge Click To Tweet Disconnected loneliness and the hopelessness is really getting people into this spiral of anxiety and depression because they're connected in the wrong ways. @johneldredge Click To Tweet Women can survive career setbacks that absolutely destroy men, because they're not looking to their career for validation. @johneldredge Click To Tweet Never quit on a bad day @cnieuwhof Click To Tweet Take a break, because leaders who never take a break end up breaking. @cnieuwhof Click To Tweet Fatigue is a terrible decision maker. @cnieuwhof Click To Tweet

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.